richard besser was smart in telling us not to jump to conclusions about us. he's crazy, i mean, somebody doesn't do this without being crazy, but why, what set him off? why batman? and all of that. >> and george, one of the other questions that i have, we're doing it today, we're doing the whole show basically on this subject, does that somehow create the opportunity for people to say, there's a payoff here? >> well, obviously, if the payoff is, get on television. if the payoff is to get notoriety and publicity, sure. but that's no reason for not talking about these things. >> again, george that is an empirical questions, do we have copy-cat killers as a result of this. what are the motives of this? why did lee harvey oswald do it? these are not -- most of these events aren't mysteries. >> you're right, george. these tend to happen with single men of a certain age, that's also the age at which certain mental illness starts to manifest it. and i think it's aggravated in a societial sense -- this guy lived alone. if he had a roommate, he would have seen that's